Curse

Floski · Oct 10, 2007, 06:24 PM // 18:24

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Sex change is just way too weird.

This is the only reason anyone can give in opposition to sex change. It's icky, so I don't want it in the game, never mind there are tons of male players using female chars, and female players using male chars, if those characters were allowed to change their sex, why, my fragile mind wouldn't be able to take it! Never mind that I would never even KNOW that someone had changed their sex unless it was someone I knew, and that 95% of the players out there I will never meet. Never mind that I'm a truly bigoted individual that is so grossed out by sex change in the real world that having it in a video game is unacceptable.

BTW: I frequent an IRC channel with someone who had a sex change and we rag on him/her/it all the damn time. I personally find it wierd as shit in real life, but this is a goddamn video game where people play their opposite gender all the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing time. If you find sex change in GW wierd, you need a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing headcheck.

Witchblade · Oct 10, 2007, 06:27 PM // 18:27

Sex Change in GW is replacing a 0 with a 1 somewhere.

Yeah, it's so beyond awkward >.<

Esan · Oct 10, 2007, 06:27 PM // 18:27

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Originally Posted by Floski

[Y]ou need a RED ENGINE

This is the honest truth. I've always wanted a red engine.

Karyuu · Oct 10, 2007, 06:35 PM // 18:35

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Originally Posted by Floski

This is the only reason anyone can give in opposition to sex change. It's icky, so I don't want it in the game, never mind there are tons of male players using female chars, and female players using male chars, if those characters were allowed to change their sex, why, my fragile mind wouldn't be able to take it!

Um, no. It's not the only reason

Changing everything about your character shows an inability to commit to your decisions, and it's particularly weird in an MMORPG, because there are things about your avatars that just have to make sense. A sex change isn't one of them. You can write it off as "magic" and make up a ton of other excuses to be able to do this, but I feel that if you wake up one morning and go "And today I want to play a male character!", you should just go and make a new male character. I'd rather people stick to their big decisions (skin tone, sex, height), because in a way, that's who their characters are. You want to look like someone else, make that someone else separately.

Feminist Terrorist · Oct 10, 2007, 07:23 PM // 19:23

I'd love to be able to change my ele's face. I can't look at her the same ever since Anet changed her face last year. IMO, they owe her, after the milk moustache incident.

Achilles Antony · Oct 10, 2007, 07:52 PM // 19:52

Hair change would make sense and would be a nice feature. Anything else (sex change or face change) is just stupid.

dark_prince2023 · Oct 10, 2007, 07:53 PM // 19:53

my wammo wants a facial scar!!!!!!

zwei2stein · Oct 10, 2007, 08:25 PM // 20:25

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Originally Posted by Karyuu

Um, no. It's not the only reason

Changing everything about your character shows an inability to commit to your decisions, and it's particularly weird in an MMORPG...

MMOs are serious bussiness, amirite?

Besides, its kinda weird having to commit to *fashion* decidions. And even more, not being able to reconsider your decidion when new options become avaiable.

Karyuu · Oct 10, 2007, 08:41 PM // 20:41

:)

Will new genders become available?

Guild Wars is still an RPG in some form, and RPGs are not 3D chatrooms - you pick a character, and for the duration of your adventures, that character's basic traits remain largely unchanged.

Age · Oct 10, 2007, 08:57 PM // 20:57

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Originally Posted by knoll

I really think this would be a good gold sink.
100k for sex change.
50k for change in Face.
like 10k for hair.

Not at that price that is outrageous.It should cost no more than it cost to change a guilds cape at the emblemer.If they can change our sexs like they did on April fools day I don't see why they can't make this happen now but they are deep into GW2.

Nomen Mendax · Oct 10, 2007, 10:14 PM // 22:14

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Originally Posted by Karyuu

Um, no. It's not the only reason

Changing everything about your character shows an inability to commit to your decisions, and it's particularly weird in an MMORPG, because there are things about your avatars that just have to make sense. A sex change isn't one of them. You can write it off as "magic" and make up a ton of other excuses to be able to do this, but I feel that if you wake up one morning and go "And today I want to play a male character!", you should just go and make a new male character. I'd rather people stick to their big decisions (skin tone, sex, height), because in a way, that's who their characters are. You want to look like someone else, make that someone else separately.

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I'd like to be able to change my character's hairstyle (particularly to another campaign's hairstyle). I don't have any desire to change my character's sex or face but, unlike a number of people posting here, I really don't care if someone else does. I find it depressing (and odd) that there are always people on these boards who want to tell other people how they should be playing.

So you don't want to change the sex of your character? Fine. Don't. But why do you care that someone else wants to?

Diddy bow · Oct 10, 2007, 10:27 PM // 22:27

Well i guess there is no reason why not to let you change your hair. But face change just seems stupid, sex change more so...

Karyuu · Oct 10, 2007, 10:51 PM // 22:51

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Originally Posted by Nomen Mendax

I find it depressing (and odd) that there are always people on these boards who want to tell other people how they should be playing.

I said "I feel that....", meaning it's my opinion. I didn't just go out and say "This is what you SHOULD be doing, no discussion." Please don't make it seem like I'm ordering everyone around, even if I disagree with someone's suggestion.

As I said, Guild Wars is still an RPG in some form and in some elements, and one aspect of RPGs is playing with a character that doesn't change body shape and gender and facial structure just because the player wants to on a whim. If our initial character choices are disregarded entirely, and we go through missions with NPCs treating us as "he" and then "she" and then "he" again, you lose some immersion and contact with the game world.

But here's what I want to ask. Why would you want to change a gender instead of creating an entirely new character? I am genuinely interested, and I don't think I've seen any thought-out explanations in this thread yet. "Just because I want to" doesn't cut it, by the way.

Halmyr · Oct 10, 2007, 10:58 PM // 22:58

I'm all up for Hair/Face/sex and even Height change if it would be available.

Just because you wan't to change something, does not mean you are not commited to your change, it simple means that your opinion have change.

Heck, I would love to have my ranger have a sex change

though he was cool at first, but a few month after, not so much.

This does not have to be like real life

I'l use the way to much use saying "its just a a game" ( ok ^-^; I'm gonna get flammed for that one)

If you against it, you just don't have to use it, its simple as that.

All this is is an other money sink and an other way to make more player happy.

Seriously, the more the merrier right??

Bryant Again · Oct 10, 2007, 11:02 PM // 23:02

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Originally Posted by Karyuu

But here's what I want to ask. Why would you want to change a gender instead of creating an entirely new character?

Because people have devoted a lot of time to a particular character would not like to have to do everything over again.

Omniclasm · Oct 10, 2007, 11:11 PM // 23:11

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Originally Posted by Karyuu

Um, no. It's not the only reason

Changing everything about your character shows an inability to commit to your decisions, and it's particularly weird in an MMORPG, because there are things about your avatars that just have to make sense. A sex change isn't one of them. You can write it off as "magic" and make up a ton of other excuses to be able to do this, but I feel that if you wake up one morning and go "And today I want to play a male character!", you should just go and make a new male character. I'd rather people stick to their big decisions (skin tone, sex, height), because in a way, that's who their characters are. You want to look like someone else, make that someone else separately.

Nice idea, how did you get infinite character slots?

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But here's what I want to ask. Why would you want to change a gender instead of creating an entirely new character? I am genuinely interested, and I don't think I've seen any thought-out explanations in this thread yet. "Just because I want to" doesn't cut it, by the way.

Armor, Skills, Time, Titles.

Would say attachment, but don't think that is the case.

My question is, other than "ewww that's gross" do you have any reason that it shouldn't be added? "Shows lack of commitment" won't work. It isn't any different than getting a new set of armor. You get tired of a look, and want a new one. What negative impact would it have on the game?

Nomen Mendax · Oct 10, 2007, 11:13 PM // 23:13

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Originally Posted by Karyuu

I said "I feel that....", meaning it's my opinion. I didn't just go out and say "This is what you SHOULD be doing, no discussion." Please don't make it seem like I'm ordering everyone around, even if I disagree with someone's suggestion.

If that wasn't your intent then I'm sorry to have misinterpreted you, it's just that you did say:

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Originally Posted by Karyuu

Um, no. It's not the only reason

Changing everything about your character shows an inability to commit to your decisions, and it's particularly weird in an MMORPG, because there are things about your avatars that just have to make sense. A sex change isn't one of them. You can write it off as "magic" and make up a ton of other excuses to be able to do this, but I feel that if you wake up one morning and go "And today I want to play a male character!", you should just go and make a new male character. I'd rather people stick to their big decisions (skin tone, sex, height), because in a way, that's who their characters are. You want to look like someone else, make that someone else separately.

Maybe I'm overly sensitive to the word should, which I do interpret as telling people what to do.

In any case, I can only guess that someone would want to change their character's sex because they wish they had started out as the opposite sex but don't want to lose all of the achievements of the original character. Like I said, I have no desire to change the sex of my characters so I can't really give you a reasonable rationale for it. On the other hand, if someone else wants to do this (for whatever reason) then that's fine by me. All of the RP objections to this primarily affect the person who is changing their character's sex, so they are really only affecting themselves.

Though I really would like to be able to change my (female) warrior's Nightfall hair.

Karyuu · Oct 10, 2007, 11:29 PM // 23:29

I'm outnumbered

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"Shows lack of commitment" won't work. It isn't any different than getting a new set of armor. You get tired of a look, and want a new one. What negative impact would it have on the game?

You are right, it wouldn't have any negative impact on the game itself, especially with GW's instance-based nature. I guess I'm just too traditional with believing that your character creation choices in an RPG should generally remain unchanged. To me, a character isn't just random pixels you use to accomplish something - but I understand not everyone feels the same in this day and age.

Omniclasm · Oct 10, 2007, 11:45 PM // 23:45

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Originally Posted by Karyuu

I'm outnumbered

You are right, it wouldn't have any negative impact on the game itself, especially with GW's instance-based nature. I guess I'm just too traditional with believing that your character creation choices in an RPG should generally remain unchanged. To me, a character isn't just random pixels you use to accomplish something - but I understand not everyone feels the same in this day and age.

Eh, I'm the same way. While it was cool seeing my characters as their female half on April 1st, and it even made me somewhat want to make a female version, but I would never change the gender of my characters. I have grown attached to my characters, and in a sense, they are me. I feel sort of awkward playing female characters.

However, seeing as how it would have no effect whatsoever on anyone besides the person who wanted it, and the actual process of changing it would be changing a 0 to a 1, I see no reason to be against it.

Other than the "ewww" factor, but really, getting grossed out by a sex change in a game is about as sad as getting turned on by a naked ele dancing.

Mineria · Oct 11, 2007, 12:42 AM // 00:42

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Originally Posted by eudas

A Cosmeticist as a purchasable guild hall improvement would be nice, as it would be an incentive for people to join guilds.

Oh, you want people into you guild, that join because of a cosmetic change?
I know that I wouldn't like people to join my guild because of a feature like that.
I mean, isn't it more worth having guild mates that are great to hang around with, as well that they are helpful?
I think it is.
For guild improvements I got plenty of other ideas related to that.
But since i don't think that Anet has the time to implement those into GW, I added them to GW2 suggestions.

About the whole sex/character change.. 1 word.. re-roll.
Hair changes, why not...
Guess I'm still to much old school rpg player.